From Beverly Review:
An employee of the Cook County sheriff’s office for nearly 20 years, Cunningham worked under former Sheriff Mike Sheahan as communications director for 16 years and then under Sheriff Tom Dart as chief of staff. On June 7, Cunningham left the sheriff’s office to work as director of communications for Gov. Pat Quinn.
Look, Mr. Cunningham maybe a good guy, but look at who he has worked for. Look at who endorces him. Look at the people that are incumbants and were former players in government that he has worked for. Mr. Cunningham has learned everything about politics from them.
If you are unhappy with the way things are, then a vote for Mr. Cunningham would probably not be wise. That and you'd be voting for a handpicked guy instead of someone the public chose to run on the democratic ticket during the primary. Remember, a bunch of elitists got together and chose the person to run instead of the people choosing who should run. Something is seriously wrong with that. You just have to wonder if Joyce and the democratic party had this planned.
However, if you are happy with the way this ward, county, and state runs then by all means, vote for Cunningham. It appears that he is a product of that government.
Friday, July 2, 2010
Another 2211 afternoon arrest!!!
WTF is going on? There are arrests to be made on Bt 2211. No, you don't say?!?
We have known for a long time that 2211 has the crime, you just have to spend the manpower and time over here searching. We think everyone in the community has known it and no one was speaking up about it except to each other. Now we have this blog and guess what, we are growing in numbers of readers and contributors. And we are starting to become aware at just how bad we let this neighborhood get.
Has it turned into the ghetto? No. Just don't want it to turn into the ghetto.
Again, and we are proud to do this, Kudos to 2211 afternoons. Please say there are 2 other watches out there working the beat. We don't care if you get arrests on the other two watches, just be here actively looking. That is all we ask.
One question, where was the arrest made? Like to know where some of the trouble is.
We have known for a long time that 2211 has the crime, you just have to spend the manpower and time over here searching. We think everyone in the community has known it and no one was speaking up about it except to each other. Now we have this blog and guess what, we are growing in numbers of readers and contributors. And we are starting to become aware at just how bad we let this neighborhood get.
Has it turned into the ghetto? No. Just don't want it to turn into the ghetto.
Again, and we are proud to do this, Kudos to 2211 afternoons. Please say there are 2 other watches out there working the beat. We don't care if you get arrests on the other two watches, just be here actively looking. That is all we ask.
One question, where was the arrest made? Like to know where some of the trouble is.
Thursday, July 1, 2010
Let's see what Ald. Rugai does
From Chicago Breaking News:
Mayor Richard Daley unveiled a gun control ordinance today that would require gun owners to register their weapons with the city, get training and keep all but one firearm locked up.
But the mayor scaled back an earlier idea of only allowing one gun per adult in a home, instead going with a provision that would limit registration with the city to one handgun a month.
The proposals will go before the City Council Police and Fire Committee today, and Daley said the full council will meet Friday to consider it.
Alderman Rugai is on the Police and Fire Committee. Our take on the new law is an attempt by government to regulate what you do in your own home to protect yourself. Limiting 1 gun in the home as being operational? Please. All of the other guns would need to be broken down or trigger locked. Listen, if you feel the need to have more than 1 gun in your home functioning, feel free to have it. It is YOUR home. Not Mayor Daley's, Alderman Rugai's or anyone elses. It is YOUR home. You pay enough money to live in this neighborhood with 1 beat car to protect you, you should have the right to protect yourself anyway you feel you need to.
There are a lot of other provisions in the proposed ordinance that make absolutely no sense. For instance, the banning of assault weapons. What is an assault weapon? Fuck, a baseball bat is an assault weapon. Don't let people scare you with words that describe a gun. Even so called 'assault weapons' require someone to pull a trigger just like a handgun.
The proposed ordinance also says that you cannot take the weapon out of your home and be on YOUR property with it. Really? We cannot take something that is ours, that we have a right to have and bring it onto something else that is ours (our land) and that we have a right to have. What a warped way of thinking.
We feel that any legislation that restricts a right is fundamentally flawed. Our alderman should respect our views and vote with her constituents on this bill. A vote against this bill in committee from her would be her honoring her constituents views. Remember, these restrictions only affect the law abiding citizens in the community. The criminal element never gave a damn and still won't.
Or she could just not show up to the committee meeting like she did when the original 'Fred Hampton Way' sign snuck its way through the committee.
Mayor Richard Daley unveiled a gun control ordinance today that would require gun owners to register their weapons with the city, get training and keep all but one firearm locked up.
But the mayor scaled back an earlier idea of only allowing one gun per adult in a home, instead going with a provision that would limit registration with the city to one handgun a month.
The proposals will go before the City Council Police and Fire Committee today, and Daley said the full council will meet Friday to consider it.
Alderman Rugai is on the Police and Fire Committee. Our take on the new law is an attempt by government to regulate what you do in your own home to protect yourself. Limiting 1 gun in the home as being operational? Please. All of the other guns would need to be broken down or trigger locked. Listen, if you feel the need to have more than 1 gun in your home functioning, feel free to have it. It is YOUR home. Not Mayor Daley's, Alderman Rugai's or anyone elses. It is YOUR home. You pay enough money to live in this neighborhood with 1 beat car to protect you, you should have the right to protect yourself anyway you feel you need to.
There are a lot of other provisions in the proposed ordinance that make absolutely no sense. For instance, the banning of assault weapons. What is an assault weapon? Fuck, a baseball bat is an assault weapon. Don't let people scare you with words that describe a gun. Even so called 'assault weapons' require someone to pull a trigger just like a handgun.
The proposed ordinance also says that you cannot take the weapon out of your home and be on YOUR property with it. Really? We cannot take something that is ours, that we have a right to have and bring it onto something else that is ours (our land) and that we have a right to have. What a warped way of thinking.
We feel that any legislation that restricts a right is fundamentally flawed. Our alderman should respect our views and vote with her constituents on this bill. A vote against this bill in committee from her would be her honoring her constituents views. Remember, these restrictions only affect the law abiding citizens in the community. The criminal element never gave a damn and still won't.
Or she could just not show up to the committee meeting like she did when the original 'Fred Hampton Way' sign snuck its way through the committee.
Wednesday, June 30, 2010
Another Narcotics Arrest
Wow. We hope the officers out there that believe they cannot get a good, overtime court arrest on 2211's beat are paying attention to Bt. 2211's activity for last night.
They got a crack cocaine arrest on the 10700 blk of Whipple. It is here people. You just have to look and patrol and you will find it. It may not be as prevelant as it is east of here, but it is here. And bangers sometimes come here to deliver, you just have to look. Looking requires a beat car to be on the beat at all times searching. Let's talk about what 2211's arrest last night might have prevented.
The idiot with the crack could have been that potential burglar on the beat that need to get something of value from a good citizen of Mt. Greenwood to buy more crack. That idiot didn't get to do it last night, they were locked up.
The idiot with the crack could have potentially robbed someone for cash or something of value to get some more crack for their addiction. Again, yesterday they didn't have a prayer because 2211 was on the prowl and was being proactive.
The waste of space could have smoked the crack cocaine, got behind the wheel of a car and hit some innocent victim because they were too high to drive. Not so fast asshole, we had a beat car doing the job we ask of them.
We are sure there are many more scenarios to evaluate the arrest of the individual last night, but we are giving the Kudos again to 2211 for the work they did on our beat.
They got a crack cocaine arrest on the 10700 blk of Whipple. It is here people. You just have to look and patrol and you will find it. It may not be as prevelant as it is east of here, but it is here. And bangers sometimes come here to deliver, you just have to look. Looking requires a beat car to be on the beat at all times searching. Let's talk about what 2211's arrest last night might have prevented.
The idiot with the crack could have been that potential burglar on the beat that need to get something of value from a good citizen of Mt. Greenwood to buy more crack. That idiot didn't get to do it last night, they were locked up.
The idiot with the crack could have potentially robbed someone for cash or something of value to get some more crack for their addiction. Again, yesterday they didn't have a prayer because 2211 was on the prowl and was being proactive.
The waste of space could have smoked the crack cocaine, got behind the wheel of a car and hit some innocent victim because they were too high to drive. Not so fast asshole, we had a beat car doing the job we ask of them.
We are sure there are many more scenarios to evaluate the arrest of the individual last night, but we are giving the Kudos again to 2211 for the work they did on our beat.
Tuesday, June 29, 2010
Answering a question
from comments:
Gotcha. But if an incident occurred inside the city limits with an unregistered "handgun" in your home, (e.g., shooting a home invader or something) would that still be a felony if you purchased it legally using your FOID Card in an Illinois suburb or out-of-state?
And if so, would that apply to an unregistered "long gun," too?
Use of deadly force is easy to explain. If you fire your handgun or shotgun, you are using deadly force. Deadly force is force that likely can result in death or great bodily harm. You are justified to use deadly force as a citizen when you feel that your or someone else's life (like family) is in danger.
The city law of failure to register is just a nuisance law. Being convicted of a ordinance can never get you to a felony. Cities are not allowed to have felony charges. Only states can have a felony charge that could get you time in the Illinois Department of Corrections. This state, even though they do not allow you to conceal carry, still has a little common sense and allows everyone else in this state to possess a handgun or weapon inside of their home.
If you choose to use deadly force against someone, you need to be able to justify said use. Example: "Offender bashed in my window and was coming into my house in such a manner that it scared the shit out of me and I thought the offender was going to kill me or my family." That statement of fear of loss of life along with the evidence of the broken window, location of offender, etc. is enough to justify your use of deadly force. If you never feel fear of losing your life or getting seriously injured, then you are not justified in using deadly force. Please, express that fear of you being attacked and potentially losing your or a family member's life and then you will be justified.
However, as of right now, the city can confiscate your gun and charge you with an city ordinance. That would be all.
Here is the Illinois Statute so that you can do some of the use of force research on your own.
Gotcha. But if an incident occurred inside the city limits with an unregistered "handgun" in your home, (e.g., shooting a home invader or something) would that still be a felony if you purchased it legally using your FOID Card in an Illinois suburb or out-of-state?
And if so, would that apply to an unregistered "long gun," too?
Use of deadly force is easy to explain. If you fire your handgun or shotgun, you are using deadly force. Deadly force is force that likely can result in death or great bodily harm. You are justified to use deadly force as a citizen when you feel that your or someone else's life (like family) is in danger.
The city law of failure to register is just a nuisance law. Being convicted of a ordinance can never get you to a felony. Cities are not allowed to have felony charges. Only states can have a felony charge that could get you time in the Illinois Department of Corrections. This state, even though they do not allow you to conceal carry, still has a little common sense and allows everyone else in this state to possess a handgun or weapon inside of their home.
If you choose to use deadly force against someone, you need to be able to justify said use. Example: "Offender bashed in my window and was coming into my house in such a manner that it scared the shit out of me and I thought the offender was going to kill me or my family." That statement of fear of loss of life along with the evidence of the broken window, location of offender, etc. is enough to justify your use of deadly force. If you never feel fear of losing your life or getting seriously injured, then you are not justified in using deadly force. Please, express that fear of you being attacked and potentially losing your or a family member's life and then you will be justified.
However, as of right now, the city can confiscate your gun and charge you with an city ordinance. That would be all.
Here is the Illinois Statute so that you can do some of the use of force research on your own.
Castle Rock vs. Gonzalez
We read in the comments recently, (sorry, we cannot place exactly where in the comments), about a Supreme Court case that stated that the police cannot not be held liable for failing to protect you from a crime. We were aware of the case and looked it up.
Castle Rock vs. Gonzalez
The basics of the case was a woman had a restaining order against her estranged husband and the police failed to act thinking the husband was not a violent person after kidnapping their 3 kids. He killed the kids and then died by cop.
Tragedy....yes. Police liable...not so much.
What can we take from this? Your police are not responsible for protecting you. We are certain that our police will attempt to if they see the crime in progress. Any good police officer would. However, in your time of immediate need, calling 911 does not protect you from the problem at hand. Should you do it? YES! But the fight doesn't stop because you called the police. Protect yourself. Protect your family and your neighbors. If you set yourself up to be a victim, you will be one. If you sit there after calling 911 waiting for the police to come and rescue you, well, you may be disappointed.
The courts have ruled, and we believe rightfully so, that you cannot depend on government for your protection. Our city would like you to think so. They build big 911 buildings, big police stations, hold beat meetings, and have a handgun ban so that you have to turn to the city for protection and not yourself. Reality is, our 1 beat car cannot stop crime. Our 1 beat car can barely respond to crime. Ultimately it is up to you to protect yourself from harm.
However, it is up to us to get our tax dollars back for the smoke and mirrors protection we receive. Hear the sound of those police sirens you pay for going east all the time. Bosses don't care, they are not liable for your protection. We know we could use some of that tax money to buy a gun.
Castle Rock vs. Gonzalez
The basics of the case was a woman had a restaining order against her estranged husband and the police failed to act thinking the husband was not a violent person after kidnapping their 3 kids. He killed the kids and then died by cop.
Tragedy....yes. Police liable...not so much.
What can we take from this? Your police are not responsible for protecting you. We are certain that our police will attempt to if they see the crime in progress. Any good police officer would. However, in your time of immediate need, calling 911 does not protect you from the problem at hand. Should you do it? YES! But the fight doesn't stop because you called the police. Protect yourself. Protect your family and your neighbors. If you set yourself up to be a victim, you will be one. If you sit there after calling 911 waiting for the police to come and rescue you, well, you may be disappointed.
The courts have ruled, and we believe rightfully so, that you cannot depend on government for your protection. Our city would like you to think so. They build big 911 buildings, big police stations, hold beat meetings, and have a handgun ban so that you have to turn to the city for protection and not yourself. Reality is, our 1 beat car cannot stop crime. Our 1 beat car can barely respond to crime. Ultimately it is up to you to protect yourself from harm.
However, it is up to us to get our tax dollars back for the smoke and mirrors protection we receive. Hear the sound of those police sirens you pay for going east all the time. Bosses don't care, they are not liable for your protection. We know we could use some of that tax money to buy a gun.
Monday, June 28, 2010
Supreme Court ruling
Our right to at least own a handgun in our home is coming true. But not quite yet. The Supreme Court remanded the case back to the lower federal court for a new decision. So, until that happens, the law is technically still on the books.
You can still get prosecuted for the city ordinance but please weigh the punishment vs the 'crime.'
City ordinance
8-20-250 Violation – Penalty.
Any person who violates any provision of this chapter, where no other penalty is specifically provided, shall upon conviction for the first time, be fined not less than $300.00, nor more than $500.00; or be incarcerated for not less than ten days nor more than 90 days or both. Any subsequent conviction for a violation of this chapter shall be punishable by a fine of $500.00 and by incarceration for a term of not less than 90 days, nor more than six months.
We know incarceration scares a lot of people and we understand that. We would not want to be incarcerated either. However, if you are a law abiding citizen of the city of Chicago and you use your weapon to protect yourself and your family, wouldn't a small fine and a little jail time be worth the life of you and your family? Just a thought.
Continuing with those thoughts, we have never seen anyone get punished along the lines of this 'failure to register' law. The worst punishment we ever saw anyone get for violating this provision is the confiscation of the firearm. That is it. If that is the worst thing to happen to you in order to protect your family, is it really that bad?
Lastly, this law is truly dead, just not officially. Will the mayor keep wanting the law enforced? You betcha. Will the average police officer arrest you for it? Probably not, especially if you are not a gang banger or of ill criminal background. Will a judge find you guilty? Probably not because most of the judges are aware of the Supreme Court ruling and know that the prosecution of you would be a futile effort. You still may lose the gun until the law is officially destroyed.
Our disclaimer is that you may still get arrested and prosecuted for possessing a handgun in your home. Reality is that you are that much closer to protecting your family at least at home. True reality is that if you possessed that handgun at home today, you can start protecting your family today with, in our opinion, minimal risk.
You can still get prosecuted for the city ordinance but please weigh the punishment vs the 'crime.'
City ordinance
8-20-250 Violation – Penalty.
Any person who violates any provision of this chapter, where no other penalty is specifically provided, shall upon conviction for the first time, be fined not less than $300.00, nor more than $500.00; or be incarcerated for not less than ten days nor more than 90 days or both. Any subsequent conviction for a violation of this chapter shall be punishable by a fine of $500.00 and by incarceration for a term of not less than 90 days, nor more than six months.
We know incarceration scares a lot of people and we understand that. We would not want to be incarcerated either. However, if you are a law abiding citizen of the city of Chicago and you use your weapon to protect yourself and your family, wouldn't a small fine and a little jail time be worth the life of you and your family? Just a thought.
Continuing with those thoughts, we have never seen anyone get punished along the lines of this 'failure to register' law. The worst punishment we ever saw anyone get for violating this provision is the confiscation of the firearm. That is it. If that is the worst thing to happen to you in order to protect your family, is it really that bad?
Lastly, this law is truly dead, just not officially. Will the mayor keep wanting the law enforced? You betcha. Will the average police officer arrest you for it? Probably not, especially if you are not a gang banger or of ill criminal background. Will a judge find you guilty? Probably not because most of the judges are aware of the Supreme Court ruling and know that the prosecution of you would be a futile effort. You still may lose the gun until the law is officially destroyed.
Our disclaimer is that you may still get arrested and prosecuted for possessing a handgun in your home. Reality is that you are that much closer to protecting your family at least at home. True reality is that if you possessed that handgun at home today, you can start protecting your family today with, in our opinion, minimal risk.
Sunday, June 27, 2010
Another WTF moment + ALERT
From email:
I live on the 10900-11000 block of Albany. This morning, (07/26) at about 5:10 a.m., a neighbor awoke to find a white male in his 20's, attempting to force his way into her house. He was pounding on her door and kicking it. The neighbor is a female, home with 2 young children, and whose husband was out of town. the man was about 6', slender build, white T-Shirt, tatoos on his arms.
When she called 911, she was told no cars were available, but one would be sent. She called a minute or so later to say the man was now walking around her back yard trying the rear door and garage door, the call taker dismissively told her, "we have no cars available, what do you want me to do?". This neighbor calls another neighbor, married to CPD, to ask what she should do, neighbor #2 gives her the desk phone # at Dist. 22.
The guy at the desk says all cars are busy at a motorcycle accident, and what she needs is a gun. No shit Sherlock! He also said her call was not a priority.
I like and respect our members of the CPD. OEMC not so much. I don't have the contacts to find out who might have been working the desk at Dist.22 this morning, but if true, and I have no reason to doubt my neighbor, what a grade A asshole.
Someone trying to force his way into a home is not a priority call? Well here's a wake up call, you haven't heard the end of this.
In the meantime, area residents beware, you are truly on your own. Have your own plan of protection, and phone numbers of neighbors who might be willing to assist you.
Is this true? We have been saying for the longest time that the one car we have on our beat hardly ever gets to stay on the beat. Reason being is that it always gets moved east. Someone was potentially trying to break into a home and it does not get a priority 1A and deserve a police response? Something tells me the call taker never made this a burglary in progress call and probably made it some sort of trespass so that it would not get a high priority police response.
As for the desk person that answered the phone in the 22nd district, we find no fault there. The person that answered the phone has no control over police manpower and was truly helpless when it comes to the individual calling the station. The desk person can't leave the station and respond. It doesn't work that way. And ultimately, the person on the desk was exactly right, get a gun and protect yourself. We are at a point where no politician, boss, or anyone else is going to have our back but ourselves.
Again, we are the good and the evil is preying upon us. Do not let your guard down and be ready to fight. Start phone trees with your neighbors. Set up email chains for your neighbors. Pass the word around about everything that happens so that everyone knows. And please email or comment us about all that is happening. We will put it on the blog. Keep advocating to our alderman and our police that we need more forced patrol of 2211's beat. It works that way in the 008th District, why can't it work that way in the 022nd district.
Look at the description of the offender. Use that description and keep your eyes open. Call the police if you see this person.
(FYI, we are sure the date was supposed to be 6/26)
I live on the 10900-11000 block of Albany. This morning, (07/26) at about 5:10 a.m., a neighbor awoke to find a white male in his 20's, attempting to force his way into her house. He was pounding on her door and kicking it. The neighbor is a female, home with 2 young children, and whose husband was out of town. the man was about 6', slender build, white T-Shirt, tatoos on his arms.
When she called 911, she was told no cars were available, but one would be sent. She called a minute or so later to say the man was now walking around her back yard trying the rear door and garage door, the call taker dismissively told her, "we have no cars available, what do you want me to do?". This neighbor calls another neighbor, married to CPD, to ask what she should do, neighbor #2 gives her the desk phone # at Dist. 22.
The guy at the desk says all cars are busy at a motorcycle accident, and what she needs is a gun. No shit Sherlock! He also said her call was not a priority.
I like and respect our members of the CPD. OEMC not so much. I don't have the contacts to find out who might have been working the desk at Dist.22 this morning, but if true, and I have no reason to doubt my neighbor, what a grade A asshole.
Someone trying to force his way into a home is not a priority call? Well here's a wake up call, you haven't heard the end of this.
In the meantime, area residents beware, you are truly on your own. Have your own plan of protection, and phone numbers of neighbors who might be willing to assist you.
Is this true? We have been saying for the longest time that the one car we have on our beat hardly ever gets to stay on the beat. Reason being is that it always gets moved east. Someone was potentially trying to break into a home and it does not get a priority 1A and deserve a police response? Something tells me the call taker never made this a burglary in progress call and probably made it some sort of trespass so that it would not get a high priority police response.
As for the desk person that answered the phone in the 22nd district, we find no fault there. The person that answered the phone has no control over police manpower and was truly helpless when it comes to the individual calling the station. The desk person can't leave the station and respond. It doesn't work that way. And ultimately, the person on the desk was exactly right, get a gun and protect yourself. We are at a point where no politician, boss, or anyone else is going to have our back but ourselves.
Again, we are the good and the evil is preying upon us. Do not let your guard down and be ready to fight. Start phone trees with your neighbors. Set up email chains for your neighbors. Pass the word around about everything that happens so that everyone knows. And please email or comment us about all that is happening. We will put it on the blog. Keep advocating to our alderman and our police that we need more forced patrol of 2211's beat. It works that way in the 008th District, why can't it work that way in the 022nd district.
Look at the description of the offender. Use that description and keep your eyes open. Call the police if you see this person.
(FYI, we are sure the date was supposed to be 6/26)
The attacks in the comments
We have read the attacks. There are attempts being made to scare our staff out of the blog writing business. The biggest fear to those who are running the show (politicians, bosses, reverends, media, etc) are people waking up to the man/woman behind the curtain and seeing the lies that we are being told by them. Those in power do not want you to see the truth. Those in power do not want you to talk to one another. Those in power do not want you to exchange stories, personal observations or ideas because then you may get the idea that those in power really are not doing a good job and have been lying to you. They fear they will lose that power over you and it scares the shit out of them. Those in power need to realize that they have power because we give it to them, not because they were blessed with it.
We believe that the people in Mt. Greenwood know the score of the game. We believe that we as a community have sat on the bench for far too long and watched our neighborhood slowly get invaded by individuals that just want to prey on the good that exists here. Our community has seen other neighborhoods in the city fall by the wayside and get destroyed. We are done watching the game. We are done being pushed around from one neighborhood to another because the ghettos are jealous of our success. It is time to stop feeling guilty for having success, having family, having homes, having money, having jobs.
This blog helps us to fight back. We are not scared. We will not run. We have not done anything wrong. We believe that what we are doing is right. We are giving a voice to our community the best way we know how. If someone sees something bad going on at a car wash, a grocery store, a neighbor's front yard, then we want to hear about it. If you don't say anything, then no one else will know what is going on. Keep you in the dark. The 'nothing to see here' attitude will not stop the criminal element. It will only embolden them to continue their attack.
No, we are not going away. We are not stopping. We are not afraid of a lawsuit because we can just as easily countersue anyone who wants to shut us up. We really are not into litigation, we just want to exist to help our community, but if someone attacks, we fight back. If you the reader do not agree with what you read on this site, you can do 2 things, either offer an opposing viewpoint in the comments which we generally post or stop reading the site. No one forces anyone to read this blog. Start your own blog or go read the Beverly Review. Continue believing what you want to believe, we do not care. We will not silence you and we would not threaten you either.
We believe that the people in Mt. Greenwood know the score of the game. We believe that we as a community have sat on the bench for far too long and watched our neighborhood slowly get invaded by individuals that just want to prey on the good that exists here. Our community has seen other neighborhoods in the city fall by the wayside and get destroyed. We are done watching the game. We are done being pushed around from one neighborhood to another because the ghettos are jealous of our success. It is time to stop feeling guilty for having success, having family, having homes, having money, having jobs.
This blog helps us to fight back. We are not scared. We will not run. We have not done anything wrong. We believe that what we are doing is right. We are giving a voice to our community the best way we know how. If someone sees something bad going on at a car wash, a grocery store, a neighbor's front yard, then we want to hear about it. If you don't say anything, then no one else will know what is going on. Keep you in the dark. The 'nothing to see here' attitude will not stop the criminal element. It will only embolden them to continue their attack.
No, we are not going away. We are not stopping. We are not afraid of a lawsuit because we can just as easily countersue anyone who wants to shut us up. We really are not into litigation, we just want to exist to help our community, but if someone attacks, we fight back. If you the reader do not agree with what you read on this site, you can do 2 things, either offer an opposing viewpoint in the comments which we generally post or stop reading the site. No one forces anyone to read this blog. Start your own blog or go read the Beverly Review. Continue believing what you want to believe, we do not care. We will not silence you and we would not threaten you either.
Mt. Dope Cemetery
Holy Shit. CPD set up virtual vehicular barricades around the gangbanger cemetery yesterday at 115th and Fairfield. It appears that numerous gangbanger funerals were being conducted at the same time. And where was the Cook County Sheriff?
chirp...chirp...
CPD was there and was providing a barricade for Mt. Greenwood and 2211/2212's beats against the ghetto folk invading, but it truly was a small waste of manpower so that these thugs could have their funerals.
Either way, much appreciation to the boys and girls in blue that helped maintain order in our neighborhood and protect us from the problems. Remember, cemeteries are cook county property. Cook County Sheriff police need to be held accountable for the cemetery problems.
chirp...chirp...
CPD was there and was providing a barricade for Mt. Greenwood and 2211/2212's beats against the ghetto folk invading, but it truly was a small waste of manpower so that these thugs could have their funerals.
Either way, much appreciation to the boys and girls in blue that helped maintain order in our neighborhood and protect us from the problems. Remember, cemeteries are cook county property. Cook County Sheriff police need to be held accountable for the cemetery problems.
Friday, June 25, 2010
Compliment an Officer
We've taken a little heat in the comments (unjustly as we will point out) about MTGP attacking the officers that work 2211. We refute that as we have time and again posted how the way 2211 is treated is not the officers fault. It is a failure of the bosses, politicians, reverends and will put some pressure on how the dispatchers dispatch cars. (although we are sure they have pressure from their higher ups when it comes to dispatching)
That being said, we are going to quash all of this negativity towards our officers that work our beat and give you this link that will truly show our appreciation for our officers.
Compliment an officer online. Please do this. Even if you are not a victim of a crime, compliment an officer on the arrests they made to help improve the neighborhood. The assistance at an accident scene. Their genuine good advice. They put up with a lot of hell and very often, they are not recognized for the hell they put up with.
However, we will continue to comment on the location of 2211 when they are pulled off of their beat to to all points east. Our community needs to stay informed of where their tax money is going and why it is going there.
That being said, we are going to quash all of this negativity towards our officers that work our beat and give you this link that will truly show our appreciation for our officers.
Compliment an officer online. Please do this. Even if you are not a victim of a crime, compliment an officer on the arrests they made to help improve the neighborhood. The assistance at an accident scene. Their genuine good advice. They put up with a lot of hell and very often, they are not recognized for the hell they put up with.
However, we will continue to comment on the location of 2211 when they are pulled off of their beat to to all points east. Our community needs to stay informed of where their tax money is going and why it is going there.
Thursday, June 24, 2010
Small Milestone
Sometime last night, our blog of 2 months has hit the 10,000 mark. Yay. Sorry, nothing for the 10,000th customer. Our goal of this blog was to post the trouble that exists in the neighborhood and to give our fellow residents a place that they can also post their crime observations. We appear to have reached some residents of Mt. Greenwood and those residents have used the comments section just how we had hoped.
People are posting suspicious people, plates, crimes, and their personal observations of the neighborhood. People are getting the information and they are talking to one another via the comments or in emails. This is a really good thing. If you keep all of your observations to yourself, then the only person that would know about them is you. We need to talk and we need to constantly be on guard for whatever lurks in our neighborhood.
This neighborhood is truly a great neighborhood. We sometimes talk about bad things that happen in the neighborhood, but in general, this is a great neighborhood. We want to keep it a great neighbohood. That is our motivation and that is what has driven myself (the writer) and my fellow staff to constantly keep up with the blog.
This blog will only work if as many residents of Mt. Greenwood as possible read and interact with the blog. We have a small percentage reading now, we are always looking for more. Continue to spread the word about the blog to your neighbors, your friends and your colleagues in the neigborhood. And keep posting what you are seeing out there, no matter how trivial you believe it may be, we would love to hear it.
Don't forget, if those hairs on the back of your neck rise up at what you see, please call 911. You might be saving yourself or your neighbor from a lot of heartache.
People are posting suspicious people, plates, crimes, and their personal observations of the neighborhood. People are getting the information and they are talking to one another via the comments or in emails. This is a really good thing. If you keep all of your observations to yourself, then the only person that would know about them is you. We need to talk and we need to constantly be on guard for whatever lurks in our neighborhood.
This neighborhood is truly a great neighborhood. We sometimes talk about bad things that happen in the neighborhood, but in general, this is a great neighborhood. We want to keep it a great neighbohood. That is our motivation and that is what has driven myself (the writer) and my fellow staff to constantly keep up with the blog.
This blog will only work if as many residents of Mt. Greenwood as possible read and interact with the blog. We have a small percentage reading now, we are always looking for more. Continue to spread the word about the blog to your neighbors, your friends and your colleagues in the neigborhood. And keep posting what you are seeing out there, no matter how trivial you believe it may be, we would love to hear it.
Don't forget, if those hairs on the back of your neck rise up at what you see, please call 911. You might be saving yourself or your neighbor from a lot of heartache.
2211 Narcotics arrest?
We are getting word that Bt. 2211 made a narcotics arrest on the 10800 blk of Pulaski on June 23rd?!? If this is true, we are sending another kudos their way. We need to start carrying those granola bars around and hand them out to the officers that make these nice arrests in our neighborhood.
Any details of arrest would be welcomed. Great job if this is true!!!!
Wednesday, June 23, 2010
Beverly Review encourages you not to talk to one another
This is getting stupid. Our blog posted some information provided by an anonymous source and next thing you know, our blog and another were being labeled as business killers.
Now, the Beverly Review is encouraging you to not email. Do not talk to one another about what might or might not be occurring in your neighborhood. Do not trust your friend to make a decision for themselves on whether or not the information that you are emailing to them is true or false. We guess the Beverly Review feels that people are sheep and they believe everything they read and cannot make decisions for themselves.
Look, if you get an email that you determine is true, or at least could be true and you want your friend to see it, email it to them. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO DO SO. You also have a right to email a lie to your friend if you want. You might be labeled by your friend as a liar, but YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO DO SO. The Beverly Review believes that the only place you can get the correct information on the subject is from them.
From Beverly Review
If you have an e-mail address and neighbors with dirt to throw, there’s a good chance that fishy e-mails come your way. We see them all the time, and it’s our job to check them out. But when it’s information about local homeowners and businesses, it is important to not spread false information.
Or else the Beverly Review police will come and get you.
Love the fact that the Beverly Review does not put a byline on this article. They are very poor at sourcing their information.
Now, the Beverly Review is encouraging you to not email. Do not talk to one another about what might or might not be occurring in your neighborhood. Do not trust your friend to make a decision for themselves on whether or not the information that you are emailing to them is true or false. We guess the Beverly Review feels that people are sheep and they believe everything they read and cannot make decisions for themselves.
Look, if you get an email that you determine is true, or at least could be true and you want your friend to see it, email it to them. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO DO SO. You also have a right to email a lie to your friend if you want. You might be labeled by your friend as a liar, but YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO DO SO. The Beverly Review believes that the only place you can get the correct information on the subject is from them.
From Beverly Review
If you have an e-mail address and neighbors with dirt to throw, there’s a good chance that fishy e-mails come your way. We see them all the time, and it’s our job to check them out. But when it’s information about local homeowners and businesses, it is important to not spread false information.
Or else the Beverly Review police will come and get you.
Love the fact that the Beverly Review does not put a byline on this article. They are very poor at sourcing their information.
Update to F.O.I.D. post
Here is the link to the State Police Firearm Owners ID card application. Take your time, fill it out completely and it only costs 10 bucks.
Our blog friend Jim McMahon offered a great idea in the comments with regards to concealed carry.
Because of the un-constitutional gun laws in this state that will not allow a Concealed Carry Permit to be issued to anyone not in law enforcement, (or politically connected) residents of Illinois are eligible for a non-resident CCW Permit from the state of Pennsylvania. And this can be done by mail. All you have to do is fill out the application, send in a copy of your IL Drivers License and your current Illinois FOID Card, enclose a self addressed-stamped envelope and a check for $26 to them, and you’re good for 5 years. I mailed mine out on a Monday, and received my CCW permit in the mail the following Wednesday. (i.e., 10 days)
With this permit you can conceal carry (or open carry) in 22 states that have reciprocity agreements with PA. It’s still useless in Illinois, but if you travel or vacation in any of the following states, you can legally carry a firearm for self protection.
Recognized in: AK-AZ-AR-GA-ID-IN-KY-LA-MO-MT-NC-ND-OK-PA-SD-TN-TX-UT-VT-VA-WV-WY.
We were able to find a .pdf application link for the concealed carry permit. Link here.
Remember, this permit DOES NOT allow you to carry your firearm in the state of Illinois on the public way. You must transport your weapon unloaded, encased in a firearm specific case and you must possess your FOID card. This state is a nanny state and does not want or trust its citizens to truly protect themselves as God has given them the right to do.
However, non-law enforcement citizens can use this permit in the states listed above.
The next question to ask yourself is how are the violent crime rates in each of these states. Probably much lower than in Illinois. However, Arizona has its own problems with the Mexican drug cartels invading.
Either way, there is a 3 day wait period for buying a handgun. Still make the purchase as soon as the law is struck down in the Supreme Court. Don't forget, buy some ammo, too. And take lessons, it will make you a better shot should the need arise.
Remember, when seconds count, police are only minutes away. Except in Chicago where there are less and less police, then they could be too overwhelmed to come because politicians are too removed from the situation to realize how short and overwhelmed our department truly is.
Our blog friend Jim McMahon offered a great idea in the comments with regards to concealed carry.
Because of the un-constitutional gun laws in this state that will not allow a Concealed Carry Permit to be issued to anyone not in law enforcement, (or politically connected) residents of Illinois are eligible for a non-resident CCW Permit from the state of Pennsylvania. And this can be done by mail. All you have to do is fill out the application, send in a copy of your IL Drivers License and your current Illinois FOID Card, enclose a self addressed-stamped envelope and a check for $26 to them, and you’re good for 5 years. I mailed mine out on a Monday, and received my CCW permit in the mail the following Wednesday. (i.e., 10 days)
With this permit you can conceal carry (or open carry) in 22 states that have reciprocity agreements with PA. It’s still useless in Illinois, but if you travel or vacation in any of the following states, you can legally carry a firearm for self protection.
Recognized in: AK-AZ-AR-GA-ID-IN-KY-LA-MO-MT-NC-ND-OK-PA-SD-TN-TX-UT-VT-VA-WV-WY.
We were able to find a .pdf application link for the concealed carry permit. Link here.
Remember, this permit DOES NOT allow you to carry your firearm in the state of Illinois on the public way. You must transport your weapon unloaded, encased in a firearm specific case and you must possess your FOID card. This state is a nanny state and does not want or trust its citizens to truly protect themselves as God has given them the right to do.
However, non-law enforcement citizens can use this permit in the states listed above.
The next question to ask yourself is how are the violent crime rates in each of these states. Probably much lower than in Illinois. However, Arizona has its own problems with the Mexican drug cartels invading.
Either way, there is a 3 day wait period for buying a handgun. Still make the purchase as soon as the law is struck down in the Supreme Court. Don't forget, buy some ammo, too. And take lessons, it will make you a better shot should the need arise.
Remember, when seconds count, police are only minutes away. Except in Chicago where there are less and less police, then they could be too overwhelmed to come because politicians are too removed from the situation to realize how short and overwhelmed our department truly is.
Tuesday, June 22, 2010
Get your F.O.I.D. card
Hey guys, just a quick note. We just want to alert all Mt. Greenwood residents that they need to apply for an Firearm Owners ID card as soon as possible. As soon as the Supreme Court shoots down the city ordinance against registering firearms, the residents of Mt. Greenwood need to be ready to go out the next day (or same day) and buy a gun to take home. The city council will work quick to implement new laws, but hopefully will allow a grandfather provision. Hence, if you have your firearm before the new laws take effect, you might be grandfathered in. Just a thought.
Arm yourselves!!!
FOID card registration usually takes a few weeks to be processed. There is no law against applying for a card even if you live in Chicago and not allowed to own a handgun.
Arm yourselves!!!
FOID card registration usually takes a few weeks to be processed. There is no law against applying for a card even if you live in Chicago and not allowed to own a handgun.
Sunday, June 20, 2010
Does Mt. Greenwood need cameras?
So do we? We have been talking on this blog about the increase in crime and we have seen in other neighborhoods the addition of cameras to attempt to solve them problem.
We here at MTGP say ABSOLUTELY NO! Let us go throught the gammit of arguements for the cameras.
From CBS2
"They're a tool to assist police officers to do their job better on the street," said Chicago Police Asst. Deputy Supt. Howard Lodding.
Really? How many street officers actually view blue light camera footage during a tour of duty? The average police officer does not use the blue light camera that is posted on a pole during their tour of duty. They usually are just sitting on top of the pole zooming in and out and rotating randomly in the hopes that they actually catch a crime occurring. If they do catch a crime occurring, that camera is not going to call 911 or alert the closest beat officer to what is happening. It will sit there and record the crime for some moments before reseting to a new camera angle. They do not exist to prevent crime, they exist to record it (maybe).
From ardamis via Chicago Tribune:
Another 100 police cameras are headed to high-crime street corners as the city expands a security system intended to disrupt crime, Mayor Richard Daley announced Tuesday.
But the new generation of cameras will be less obtrusive than the 200 already on the street. They will be a fraction of the weight and size of the current model and not be equipped with flashing blue lights.
The mayor related it best. They cameras are meant to disrupt crime. That's it. Not stop it. Not intervene. Not report it, just disrupt it. Wow, when we are getting robbed, or caught in gang crossfire, we will just be praying there is a camera there to disrupt it.
If we had police monitor all of the cameras located in the city, we would seriously need one police officer per camera. In order to effectively use the cameras that are in a fixed location and can't move around, we would need to put one set of eyes on each camera so that that set of eyes could watch for crimes in progress and let the police on the ground know where to go and what to look for. So, basically, you need 2 people to do the job that 1 would have been able to do. Not cost effective and not efficient.
To borrow a line from Second City Cop, when was the last time you saw a camera climb down from a pole and put cuffs on someone. Cameras are just there to make the average citizen believe something is being done when really nothing is.
We believe that our police department is comprised of many very good officers that are more than willing to do the work that needs to be done. However, we feel that out police department philosophy has changed. Chicago Police are being led to not prevent crime or be proactive but to report crime and be reactive. Hence why there is an increase in cameras that only report crime and no police to actually prevent crime.
Mount Greenwood does not need cameras, it needs boots on the ground in the form of police officers.
We here at MTGP say ABSOLUTELY NO! Let us go throught the gammit of arguements for the cameras.
From CBS2
"They're a tool to assist police officers to do their job better on the street," said Chicago Police Asst. Deputy Supt. Howard Lodding.
Really? How many street officers actually view blue light camera footage during a tour of duty? The average police officer does not use the blue light camera that is posted on a pole during their tour of duty. They usually are just sitting on top of the pole zooming in and out and rotating randomly in the hopes that they actually catch a crime occurring. If they do catch a crime occurring, that camera is not going to call 911 or alert the closest beat officer to what is happening. It will sit there and record the crime for some moments before reseting to a new camera angle. They do not exist to prevent crime, they exist to record it (maybe).
From ardamis via Chicago Tribune:
Another 100 police cameras are headed to high-crime street corners as the city expands a security system intended to disrupt crime, Mayor Richard Daley announced Tuesday.
But the new generation of cameras will be less obtrusive than the 200 already on the street. They will be a fraction of the weight and size of the current model and not be equipped with flashing blue lights.
The mayor related it best. They cameras are meant to disrupt crime. That's it. Not stop it. Not intervene. Not report it, just disrupt it. Wow, when we are getting robbed, or caught in gang crossfire, we will just be praying there is a camera there to disrupt it.
If we had police monitor all of the cameras located in the city, we would seriously need one police officer per camera. In order to effectively use the cameras that are in a fixed location and can't move around, we would need to put one set of eyes on each camera so that that set of eyes could watch for crimes in progress and let the police on the ground know where to go and what to look for. So, basically, you need 2 people to do the job that 1 would have been able to do. Not cost effective and not efficient.
To borrow a line from Second City Cop, when was the last time you saw a camera climb down from a pole and put cuffs on someone. Cameras are just there to make the average citizen believe something is being done when really nothing is.
We believe that our police department is comprised of many very good officers that are more than willing to do the work that needs to be done. However, we feel that out police department philosophy has changed. Chicago Police are being led to not prevent crime or be proactive but to report crime and be reactive. Hence why there is an increase in cameras that only report crime and no police to actually prevent crime.
Mount Greenwood does not need cameras, it needs boots on the ground in the form of police officers.
Friday, June 18, 2010
Crime taking a break?
Is there anything that has been happening in the neighborhood that we should all be aware of? We feel that we have been writing a lot about the political aspects of crime and not the true crime. That is a good thing. We hope that the criminal element has taken a break for a little while. Stay alert though!
The Blame Game
It is a game. Everytime something goes wrong, we all look for someone to blame. And sometimes we have to look in the mirror. When our child fucks up. When we don't pay a bill. When our car breaks down and we didn't keep up the maintenance. But when it comes to the public at large, the blame falls largely on the shoulders of the politicians.
From comments.
The responsibility for crime and all the other social upheaval in our neighborhood cant sit squarely on the shoulders of the politicians that we elect. Certainly, you don't want them, or for that matter the police in your living room every time something in our own homes goes wrong. Its always easier to point a finger at someone else as being at fault. I once had an FTO that told me that 95% of everything that goes wrong, is our own responsibility. In his words, "we do it to ourselves". If it feels better to blame someone else, thats just human nature. These are shit times. We have people moving in that dont have the wherewithall to be here. Is that the politicians fault, or the lender who makes his money processing a mortgage that will be sold to another finacial institution? The attitude is fuck it, I got mine. The ones left holding the bag are us, the ones who pay our bills, and our taxes.
But local politicians dont write the script for the private sector, they don't hold approval over the loans given to unqualified applicants.
On another level, the politicians dont send gangbangers and druggies into our neighborhood . After all, they live here too. And the courts basically uphold the rights of these dirtbags to go where they want. The pendulum has swung the other way. The media has spread false sense of fair play.
Look at all the boo-hooing in the papers for murderers of Officers Doyle, Fahey and O'Brien. Look at the comments section following the articles about the Burge trial. They convict Burge in the press and then complain that the Wilson brothers were stereotyped by the police as offenders only because of their race, not their criminal histories. You want to point a finger, theres a lot of directions to go. If I were to boil it down to who's responsible for our neighborhoods going down the drain, I'd have to look at the media, and those who forget that they themselves are a for profit business, NOT A PUBLIC SERVICE. Ive said enough, I have to go watch Maury Povich, he's doing another one of those "whose your daddy?" themed shows that are so relevant to we, the people who work to keep our neighborhoods up. Sorry for the rant, just venting.
The politicians are very responsible for what is happening. They, from the federal level to the local level, control all of the regulation that occurs in society. They are also the same ones that put pressure on the banks to make loans to individuals that could not pay it back if they want to, using your mortgage analogy.
That attitude of 'fuck it, I got mine,' occurs very regularly in politics and the attitude has filtered down through to the private sector. Look at pork barrel projects in America. Say a fiscally responsible republican says no to a spending bill and is staunchly against it. Then with some negotiation later, he is for the bill because he is getting a new airport built in his district, which is hidden in the bill. 'Fuck it, I got mine.'
Look at the police contract. The police are upset because they got shafted on their raise. And they have good reason to be. We don't think the police would be that upset if the attitude of the politicians were truly sincere. The police saw the alderman pass themselves a 6% raise and a significant raise for their staff as well. 'Fuck it, I got mine' attitude took hold. Now they got their raise, everyone else must suffer. If the alderman took no raise to a 2% a year raise, then the police wouldn't have a leg to stand on and would truly understand the financial crisis at hand.
The media is to blame. However, the media is controlled by the politicians. Do you think the reporter at city hall wants to be kicked out of the loop because they reported something unfavorably towards the administration. They are puppets for the politicians because they feel they have to be. That is why the blog world, personal reporting and individual learning has exploded because people know where to find the truth and opinion that reflects what they see with their own two eyes.
As far as the judges and the judicial system, well they are elected....after being appointed or allowed to run by the powers that be. If you don't fit the agenda that the political powers want, you won't win the election or be appointed. And if you get elected and don't fit the agenda, enjoy being a judge at traffic court.
We need politicians that are in their positions for the people they serve. Not for the elites, the money people, the lobbyists, the reverends, etc. Politicians need to start listening to their constituents or start looking for other jobs.
From comments.
The responsibility for crime and all the other social upheaval in our neighborhood cant sit squarely on the shoulders of the politicians that we elect. Certainly, you don't want them, or for that matter the police in your living room every time something in our own homes goes wrong. Its always easier to point a finger at someone else as being at fault. I once had an FTO that told me that 95% of everything that goes wrong, is our own responsibility. In his words, "we do it to ourselves". If it feels better to blame someone else, thats just human nature. These are shit times. We have people moving in that dont have the wherewithall to be here. Is that the politicians fault, or the lender who makes his money processing a mortgage that will be sold to another finacial institution? The attitude is fuck it, I got mine. The ones left holding the bag are us, the ones who pay our bills, and our taxes.
But local politicians dont write the script for the private sector, they don't hold approval over the loans given to unqualified applicants.
On another level, the politicians dont send gangbangers and druggies into our neighborhood . After all, they live here too. And the courts basically uphold the rights of these dirtbags to go where they want. The pendulum has swung the other way. The media has spread false sense of fair play.
Look at all the boo-hooing in the papers for murderers of Officers Doyle, Fahey and O'Brien. Look at the comments section following the articles about the Burge trial. They convict Burge in the press and then complain that the Wilson brothers were stereotyped by the police as offenders only because of their race, not their criminal histories. You want to point a finger, theres a lot of directions to go. If I were to boil it down to who's responsible for our neighborhoods going down the drain, I'd have to look at the media, and those who forget that they themselves are a for profit business, NOT A PUBLIC SERVICE. Ive said enough, I have to go watch Maury Povich, he's doing another one of those "whose your daddy?" themed shows that are so relevant to we, the people who work to keep our neighborhoods up. Sorry for the rant, just venting.
The politicians are very responsible for what is happening. They, from the federal level to the local level, control all of the regulation that occurs in society. They are also the same ones that put pressure on the banks to make loans to individuals that could not pay it back if they want to, using your mortgage analogy.
That attitude of 'fuck it, I got mine,' occurs very regularly in politics and the attitude has filtered down through to the private sector. Look at pork barrel projects in America. Say a fiscally responsible republican says no to a spending bill and is staunchly against it. Then with some negotiation later, he is for the bill because he is getting a new airport built in his district, which is hidden in the bill. 'Fuck it, I got mine.'
Look at the police contract. The police are upset because they got shafted on their raise. And they have good reason to be. We don't think the police would be that upset if the attitude of the politicians were truly sincere. The police saw the alderman pass themselves a 6% raise and a significant raise for their staff as well. 'Fuck it, I got mine' attitude took hold. Now they got their raise, everyone else must suffer. If the alderman took no raise to a 2% a year raise, then the police wouldn't have a leg to stand on and would truly understand the financial crisis at hand.
The media is to blame. However, the media is controlled by the politicians. Do you think the reporter at city hall wants to be kicked out of the loop because they reported something unfavorably towards the administration. They are puppets for the politicians because they feel they have to be. That is why the blog world, personal reporting and individual learning has exploded because people know where to find the truth and opinion that reflects what they see with their own two eyes.
As far as the judges and the judicial system, well they are elected....after being appointed or allowed to run by the powers that be. If you don't fit the agenda that the political powers want, you won't win the election or be appointed. And if you get elected and don't fit the agenda, enjoy being a judge at traffic court.
We need politicians that are in their positions for the people they serve. Not for the elites, the money people, the lobbyists, the reverends, etc. Politicians need to start listening to their constituents or start looking for other jobs.
Thursday, June 17, 2010
Village Voice said...
Well I for one am not sad that we do not have the parade ... I have no problem with a festival similar to Irish fest at Gaelic Park but the parade was turning into a joke .. If the tradition which was turning into a drunkfest, well sayonara. That is the example it was setting ... PR fest is changing, I worked it back in the day when it was a battle royal, but now from what I hear, it is not that bad ... One thing to remember, the city did not stop the parade ... The Parade committee ended the parade ...
Let's analyze this.
We for one would love to have an Irish fest too. We basically had that. However, some committee cancelled it. Funny thing, can't find the members of the committee anywhere listed. Wonder who was on that committee.
About the drunkfest. Maybe it was turning into a drunkfest. Maybe it always was. Is it a shock that you put a large quantity of Irish people together that they may drink? Our festival was once a year, usually on a cold day and in the morning. It was a major financial draw to the community. It was attended by people from around the country and the world. How can something that was so well attended by so many good people be so bad?
Puerto Rican fest changing? Okay, inside of the park where it is held, maybe. One of our staff have recently worked the fest as well and they tell me there are still roving street gangs moving about through the fest threatening and attempting to start fights. If it was not for the 'overwhelming' police presence, the Puerto Rican fest would be the same as when you worked it.
Immediately step outside the park and you definitely have problems. When the day comes and they invent transporters that beam us directly to the event, we may go.
Lastly, the city did not stop the parade? Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. Let me ask you this, if the city didn't stop the parade, why did a city alderwoman for the 19th ward make this comment that was found in an ABC 7 news report.
"People are sad but they know it had to happen. It's grown to a point where it can't be held in a residential community like this," said Ald. Ginger Rugai, 19th Ward.
Why would an alderwoman be so quick to be on the side of the committee if she had nothing to do with it? We all know that you need the alderwoman on your side for permits and the like.
Ultimately, the point of the previous article still holds true. We already inundate other neighborhoods in Chicago with police and these festivals just draw more manpower away from the good, tax-paying neighborhoods like ours.
Let's analyze this.
We for one would love to have an Irish fest too. We basically had that. However, some committee cancelled it. Funny thing, can't find the members of the committee anywhere listed. Wonder who was on that committee.
About the drunkfest. Maybe it was turning into a drunkfest. Maybe it always was. Is it a shock that you put a large quantity of Irish people together that they may drink? Our festival was once a year, usually on a cold day and in the morning. It was a major financial draw to the community. It was attended by people from around the country and the world. How can something that was so well attended by so many good people be so bad?
Puerto Rican fest changing? Okay, inside of the park where it is held, maybe. One of our staff have recently worked the fest as well and they tell me there are still roving street gangs moving about through the fest threatening and attempting to start fights. If it was not for the 'overwhelming' police presence, the Puerto Rican fest would be the same as when you worked it.
Immediately step outside the park and you definitely have problems. When the day comes and they invent transporters that beam us directly to the event, we may go.
Lastly, the city did not stop the parade? Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. Let me ask you this, if the city didn't stop the parade, why did a city alderwoman for the 19th ward make this comment that was found in an ABC 7 news report.
"People are sad but they know it had to happen. It's grown to a point where it can't be held in a residential community like this," said Ald. Ginger Rugai, 19th Ward.
Why would an alderwoman be so quick to be on the side of the committee if she had nothing to do with it? We all know that you need the alderwoman on your side for permits and the like.
Ultimately, the point of the previous article still holds true. We already inundate other neighborhoods in Chicago with police and these festivals just draw more manpower away from the good, tax-paying neighborhoods like ours.
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